Sorry one more question <span class="highlight">Tyre</span> <span class="highlight">Pressures</span>.
Submitted: Thursday, Sep 21, 2006 at 09:45
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DavidT
Hi Im back, What
pressures would you run on the different conditions we will have Ct in tow Flinders Trecks and the
oodnadatta track.
regards
Davet T
Reply By: Darian (SA) - Thursday, Sep 21, 2006 at 10:00
Thursday, Sep 21, 2006 at 10:00
Vehicle ? Loads ? Tyres ?
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Reply By: Johnnotoo - Thursday, Sep 21, 2006 at 10:15
Thursday, Sep 21, 2006 at 10:15
Hi David T
I have a cruiser wagon and towed a lightweight (1 Tonne) camper van and ran 30psi on vehicle and camper on the
Oodnadatta road and on the Flinders trecks. Went back to 40psi all round on the bitumen. I use 4psi as a rule of thumb for pressure increase when hot so I allow for this so
check and deflate to 30psi once tyres are hot.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Thursday, Sep 21, 2006 at 11:00
Thursday, Sep 21, 2006 at 11:00
We use similar
pressures, 38psi (cold) on bitumen & 28psi on the Outback tracks.
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Reply By: greydemon - Thursday, Sep 21, 2006 at 11:09
Thursday, Sep 21, 2006 at 11:09
Oh dear.
I think you need to do a search on '
tyre pressure' on this site. You will find that, other than the obvious in sand , there are diametrically opposed
views on
tyre pressures on tracks. One side lowers the pressure believing that it gives a better ride and less punctures (one theory is based on the belief that a soft balloon is harder to
puncture than a hard one). The other side goes for high pressure to reduce side wall flexing which can totally destroy tyres. Less bulge can also reduce side wall staking.
Both sides mount fair and reasonable arguements and quote credible sources, and will probably do so again on this thread! Personally I am a high pressure person, I just get the fillings put back in my teeth at the end of the trip. But, having chosen high pressure I don't necessarily believe that either side is right. It mainly seems to come down to luck!
Please do NOT ask what speed you should go over corrugations!
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Reply By: Notso - Thursday, Sep 21, 2006 at 12:34
Thursday, Sep 21, 2006 at 12:34
Give the bloke at the
Pink Roadhouse at
Oodnadatta a call.
He has an opinion too. We did The same Trip with Bridgestone Dueller ATs LT 265/75 R16s that had done 70,000 ks on the Nissan and new ones on the CT. Ran them all around 28PSI, never had a flat or
tyre failure in 9 Months travelling the Dirt Tracks of AUS.
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Reply By: Outbacktourer - Thursday, Sep 21, 2006 at 15:21
Thursday, Sep 21, 2006 at 15:21
Large wagon loaded, towing BFG AT 265/75 16: F 25 R 30 (Cold) F 28 R 35 (Hot, when
airing down off tar).
The bigger the bag the lower the pressure,
The worse the track the lower the pressure,
The lower the pressure the lower the speed,
The heavier the load the higher the pressure,
Lower pressure=more contact patch=more grip=more control=more safety.
Given the above, tyres with lower
pressures will in general have fewer punctures. In my experience the tyres carrying the most load (therefore with more pressure) are at highest risk of puncturing. Always put your newest tyres where you are carrying the most load and running the highest
pressures.
I've seen people with new tyres run high
pressures and get away with no punctures. Bull bars fall off, shocks get stuffed, vechicle slides everywhere and passengers become alergic to dirt; but no punctures. Don't try it with older tyres though.
All of the above IMHO of course.
OT
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Follow Up By: Arkay - Adelaide - Friday, Sep 22, 2006 at 09:45
Friday, Sep 22, 2006 at 09:45
IMHO you should put your best tyres on the front, which is not usually where the greatest load is. Front tyres are then lthe east likely to blow. Blown front tyres cause steering / stopping problems you may not want.
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Thursday, Sep 21, 2006 at 22:54
Thursday, Sep 21, 2006 at 22:54
Adam from
Oodnadatta Roadhouse will tell you 24-26psi. I've followed his advice for many years and he's always been spot on.
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Reply By: stevesub - Friday, Sep 22, 2006 at 07:35
Friday, Sep 22, 2006 at 07:35
Depends on the tyres, vehicle, load, track, speed.
We now use the manufactures
pressures for the vehicle all the time - why, when we used to lower our
pressures we had several low pressure related blowouts. SInce we are back to manufacters
pressures, no problems. Maybe we were going too fast for the
tyre pressures but they were still at 40psi (various
tyre shop recommendations).
We use 750-16 light truck tyres on our Troopy which run much higher
pressures (33-35psi front, 57-60psi rear) than normal radial types of tyres.
Interesting, Landrover recommend that same pressure on and off road in the Rangie handbook. (28psi front, 38psi rear). Toyota do notspecifically say use the same pressure on and off road but do not give an offroad option.
Low speed slippery tracks are the only place that I will drop
pressures - ONLY if required to progress on the track without wrecking the track.
Stevesub
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Follow Up By: Outbacktourer - Friday, Sep 22, 2006 at 08:01
Friday, Sep 22, 2006 at 08:01
This is not a bad way to go since manufacturerers tend to err on the low side (comfort oriented).
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